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		<title>By: Leveraging Social Networks in the Workplace &#171; Signal/Noise</title>
		<link>http://billpetti.com/2009/10/25/organizing-for-innovation-a-conversation-with-ana-andjelic/#comment-8136</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leveraging Social Networks in the Workplace &#171; Signal/Noise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 00:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] line: businesses should think about how to optimally organize their workers for innovation.  Critical to this is encouraging what I would term &#8220;social bumping&#8220;&#8211;the process [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] line: businesses should think about how to optimally organize their workers for innovation.  Critical to this is encouraging what I would term &#8220;social bumping&#8220;&#8211;the process [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Mating of Ideas &#171; Signal/Noise</title>
		<link>http://billpetti.com/2009/10/25/organizing-for-innovation-a-conversation-with-ana-andjelic/#comment-5792</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Mating of Ideas &#171; Signal/Noise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 02:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] written about this topic previously, and Ridley&#8217;s perspective lies fairly close to my own.  We tend to [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Lelah Doman</title>
		<link>http://billpetti.com/2009/10/25/organizing-for-innovation-a-conversation-with-ana-andjelic/#comment-1570</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lelah Doman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My buyers went through debt consolidation. Now they have only one bill they won&#039;t pay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My buyers went through debt consolidation. Now they have only one bill they won&#8217;t pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Oldschool Social Networking &#171; bill &#124; petti</title>
		<link>http://billpetti.com/2009/10/25/organizing-for-innovation-a-conversation-with-ana-andjelic/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oldschool Social Networking &#171; bill &#124; petti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The rationale for the group sounds quite similar to claims about the importance of social networks, organizing for innovation, and the power of weak ties: When Robert Menschel, a senior director at Goldman Sachs Group Inc., was considering deals [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The rationale for the group sounds quite similar to claims about the importance of social networks, organizing for innovation, and the power of weak ties: When Robert Menschel, a senior director at Goldman Sachs Group Inc., was considering deals [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8216;Does your mind set = my data set?&#8217; &#171; bill &#124; petti</title>
		<link>http://billpetti.com/2009/10/25/organizing-for-innovation-a-conversation-with-ana-andjelic/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8216;Does your mind set = my data set?&#8217; &#171; bill &#124; petti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] presentation drove home two points for me: the importance of challenging our assumptions, the impact of data visualization, and the power of relational [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: While I am traveling&#8230; &#171; bill &#124; petti</title>
		<link>http://billpetti.com/2009/10/25/organizing-for-innovation-a-conversation-with-ana-andjelic/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[While I am traveling&#8230; &#171; bill &#124; petti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] marketing.  It is an interesting piece that dovetails nicely with the discussion we recently had around how to organize for innovation. Digital agencies impress clients with their passion, drive and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] marketing.  It is an interesting piece that dovetails nicely with the discussion we recently had around how to organize for innovation. Digital agencies impress clients with their passion, drive and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Firm, Transaction Costs, and Organizing for Innovation &#171; bill &#124; petti</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Firm, Transaction Costs, and Organizing for Innovation &#171; bill &#124; petti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 27, 2009 &#183; Leave a Comment  Ana Anjdelic responded to my latest post with some very interesting points.  She commented that some of my suggestions [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by BillPetti: Organizing for Innovation: A conversation with Ana Andjelic: http://wp.me/pB5tD-fx &#124; chat on weak ties, social networks, and innovation...]]></description>
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<p>This post was mentioned on Twitter by BillPetti: Organizing for Innovation: A conversation with Ana Andjelic: <a href="http://wp.me/pB5tD-fx" rel="nofollow">http://wp.me/pB5tD-fx</a> | chat on weak ties, social networks, and innovation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ana Andjelic</title>
		<link>http://billpetti.com/2009/10/25/organizing-for-innovation-a-conversation-with-ana-andjelic/#comment-161</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill, a few comments on both this and your “You Don’t Always Know What you Want” post. 

It’s true - knowledge “reshuffling” is key to innovation (or, as you said “when it comes to thinking, we need more disruption, not less.”) This reshuffling, however, creates a lot of “noise” (how do you know what you are looking for before you find it?), and ultimately accounts for less-than-efficient organization, because it creates crazy transaction costs. 

And reduction of transaction costs is what made firms show up in the first place (in opposition to markets), as Ronald Coase would have said. 

So, the very condition that’s critical for generation of new knowledge and/or recombining old and new knowledge is actually detrimental for efficiency. The question then is, how to combine organizational efficiency with innovation? 

Ok, I&#039;ll be a little bit more specific now. You noted that in order to solve a complex problem “you would want to bring together differing perspectives from within the organization.” But - how do you know who knows what? By the time you find out, there’s going to be a lot of time and resources lost (e.g. attention, search, etc.) And if you know who knows what, well, then you are just repeating your past searches, right? That’s the first problem.

Second problem is that, even if you create conditions for people to bump into each other repeatedly (or expose them to social networking and crowdsourcing software), they will still gravitate towards “local” solutions - that is, towards those resources they used in the past. Simply, they don’t have time/energy/attention to do search over again each time they need to solve a problem by a certain deadline (think efficiency).

And then, there’s the third, practical problem. While it’s technologically possible to set up internal networks and to “have those networks integrate with external networks to maximize the likelihood of intellectual bumping”, as you say, there are very few - if any - places that would open up their internal, proprietary data to external networks. So intellectual property goes against intellectual bumping.

All of this said, making organizations more innovative is a work-in-progress. There are different success stories for sure. I like a lot your idea of making social media and technologies mandatory for all workers. Much better than having a Chief Innovation Officer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, a few comments on both this and your “You Don’t Always Know What you Want” post. </p>
<p>It’s true &#8211; knowledge “reshuffling” is key to innovation (or, as you said “when it comes to thinking, we need more disruption, not less.”) This reshuffling, however, creates a lot of “noise” (how do you know what you are looking for before you find it?), and ultimately accounts for less-than-efficient organization, because it creates crazy transaction costs. </p>
<p>And reduction of transaction costs is what made firms show up in the first place (in opposition to markets), as Ronald Coase would have said. </p>
<p>So, the very condition that’s critical for generation of new knowledge and/or recombining old and new knowledge is actually detrimental for efficiency. The question then is, how to combine organizational efficiency with innovation? </p>
<p>Ok, I&#8217;ll be a little bit more specific now. You noted that in order to solve a complex problem “you would want to bring together differing perspectives from within the organization.” But &#8211; how do you know who knows what? By the time you find out, there’s going to be a lot of time and resources lost (e.g. attention, search, etc.) And if you know who knows what, well, then you are just repeating your past searches, right? That’s the first problem.</p>
<p>Second problem is that, even if you create conditions for people to bump into each other repeatedly (or expose them to social networking and crowdsourcing software), they will still gravitate towards “local” solutions &#8211; that is, towards those resources they used in the past. Simply, they don’t have time/energy/attention to do search over again each time they need to solve a problem by a certain deadline (think efficiency).</p>
<p>And then, there’s the third, practical problem. While it’s technologically possible to set up internal networks and to “have those networks integrate with external networks to maximize the likelihood of intellectual bumping”, as you say, there are very few &#8211; if any &#8211; places that would open up their internal, proprietary data to external networks. So intellectual property goes against intellectual bumping.</p>
<p>All of this said, making organizations more innovative is a work-in-progress. There are different success stories for sure. I like a lot your idea of making social media and technologies mandatory for all workers. Much better than having a Chief Innovation Officer.</p>
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		<title>By: Organizing for Innovation: A conversation with Ana Andjelic &#124; USA Business News</title>
		<link>http://billpetti.com/2009/10/25/organizing-for-innovation-a-conversation-with-ana-andjelic/#comment-158</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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